As she nurses, she asks Frecklewish to fetch her water. If only you were here. What is going on here? My mother sounded confused, anxious, and concerned at the same time. by that logic, why wasn't Mapleshade accepted into StarClan? Darkstripe was loyal to a murderous cat, he tried to kill a child. Once she left, I grabbed the mouse and took it back to Crimsonwish. Wasppaw let out a yelp as he tumbled to the ground. Stormkit was about their age when he broke his jaw trying to cross the stones. We use cookies to optimize our website and our service. And now you treat me worse than prey. You have betrayed me and my kits. This is Thesecret1070. She has a breakdown before she ran into the tunnels, but I think that was less about guilt about murdering Ashfur, and more about just general guilt surrounding breaking the warrior code and having everything she thought to be true collapsing around her. She tries to carry the kits across the river but they drown, and when she gets . Mapleshade watched them, amused and satisfied. Who are you?. The reasons why she didnt go to the bridge was Caliart alcohol markers. She takes her kits across the river, but they drown. They are perfect, Appledusk murmured. Mapleshade goes by some RiverClan cats who snarl at her and remember the day one of their warriors, Appledusk, struck a ThunderClan cat, Birchface, so hard that he fell into the river and drowned. Unlike Crookedjaw, Thistleclaw failed to become leader and didn'tescape the Dark Forest's influence,joining them after his death. Mapleshade then became a rogue and quicklyfell into insanity, her mind crawling withhallucinations of her drowned kits. (Birchface has SkyClan blood!) When the Clans moved to new territories, Mapleshade followed and plotted with the other Dark Forest cats to destroy them once and for all, takingin and training more living recruits than ever before. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Then cats like Darkstripe and Hawkfrost would have gone to the Dark Forest to be with Tigerstar (although they may have also viewed StarClan as weak. Imagine raking your claws across some cat's pelt, and drawing real blood! They are so young and full of potential. Mapleshade watched them elatedly, her heart about to bust with love. We never actually see her say or think anything about feeling bad for killing Ashfur. Lets start off by setting the scence (MAJOR spoilers for Mapleshades Vengeance): Mapleshade, a ThunderClan cat, is secretly mates with Appledusk, a RiverClan cat. My name is Mapleshade. This leads me to my final theory, which is the only thing that I think truly makes sense: cats choose to go to StarClan or the Dark Forest. When Appledusk is killed, Reedshine is already carrying his kits. Mapleshade watched as the three kits ran up to sniff it. HEAVILY inspired by u/Bee8467 's idea of Frecklewish taking care of Mapleshade's kits in Starclan! Plus, well be there soon.. It seems weird for StarClan to send her to the Dark Forest if she was trying to save her kits, but I dont think StarClan knew about her visions, nor do I think that she had to free her kits.
Ask the Cats of the Clans!, In your opinion, did mapleshade deserve to Mapleshade layed her head on his shoulder. Be patient, and you will find out everything.Mapleshade revealing herself to Tigerclaw.
Warrior Cats Mapleshades Vengeance / Recap - TV Tropes Is that how you treat fellow apprentices?! Anyway, that's just me spitballing. I have walked beside you from the day you were born, guiding your paw steps, laying out your destiny before you. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! After this she only hears two of her kits crying for her, and she thinks she needs to kill three cats total to properly avenge them. Its about Patchkit.. During her exile, Mapleshade had visions of her drowned kits, initially wailing for help and then urging her to commit murder. Mapleshade tries to stop them talking, but Ravenwing reveals he had a omen, and thinks it's about the kits, that the kits do not belong in ThunderClan. Larchkit mews a RiverClan warrior had to save Patchkit.
Mapleshade/History | Warriors Wiki | Fandom An interesting theory that came to mind was that Mapleshade wanted to kill Firestar, because he was the mate to Sandstorm, and she wanted her to suffer. Villain Episode: This novella shows Mapleshade's downfall and how she first became a villain. Water reeds dont grown in Thunderclan.. Mapleshade decides her third cat to kill will be Appledusk. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. Join us, Warrior! After spending moons in the Dark Forest, her appearance became rather distorted andemaciated, witha scarred head, muzzle and face, and ragged, patched, matted fur. Also included in a three-pack bundle with the rest of. I wonder if there could be some sort of magical influence on who goes where. Registered users will be able to edit pages, will only see ads on the Main Page, and more. Mapleshade watched them, amused and satisfied. They arrived at the sunningrocks. For all eternity, Appledusk's kin would mourn the day he had destroyed the life of a ThunderClan warrior. Well, I caught it just for you!! Bluestar and Mapleshade are actually quite the same Waves of rain spiraled down from the sky, crashing down on the clearing and the roof of our den. Mapleshade is a sturdy, large, matted, sleek, tortoiseshell she-cat with a scar on the bridge of her nose, a fluffy white tail, and amber eyes. She became mates with Appledusk, a warrior of RiverClan, and was expecting his kits. She was a brave and skillful warrior, willing to fightany enemy she encountered. She tells him that she's expecting his kits, and he promises that they can still see each other when things calm down. There has been much confusion over Mapleshade's description. And, yeah I put Mapleshade in the murdering because of a purpose category (wanting to get revenge because of the death of her kits,) but not the murdering for fun category. CROOKEDSTAR LITERALLY WELCOMED GRAYSTRIPE (Silverstreams mate of thunderclan) WITH OPEN ARMS IN ORDER FOR HIM TO TAKE CARE OF HIS DARLING KITS! Appledusk tries to save them, but cannot. If the argument there is that Ashfur suffered a mental breakdown from breaking up with Squirrelflight, which prompted his murderous actions, and so, therefore, he cannot be accountable for what he did, since he simply "loved too much," then, that completely fits the bill with Mapleshade as well. Ravenwing finds out, and tells everyone, and both Oakstar and Frecklewish are understandably upset when they learn that Oakstars son and Frecklewishs brother is not the father, but rather the cat who killed him, which Mapleshade defends by saying it was an accident he died, and tries to say that it doesnt matter who the father is. You will see that soon enough!!!!!. Mapleshade is a sturdy, large, matted, sleek, tortoiseshell she-cat with a scar on the bridge of her nose, a fluffy white tail, and amber eyes. Mapleshade gives her news to the Clan the next day, and when asked about the father she says only that she's raising the kits alone. Are you from Riverclan? To be rejected twice? "You must promise me that you will be loyal to your Clan above all other things. And this is Patchkit and Petalkit.. 674 takers Report. Im truly sorry, Birchface. And now you treat me worse than prey. Her third kit vanishes, and she thinks they're free, but also can't find them. Add to library 5. Mapleshade was a ThunderClan warrior that served under Oakstar's leadership in the forest territories and a Dark Forest member. She stumbles to the barn where she'd slept before, and falls unconscious for the last time. This is merely a Fanfiction. Thistleclaw was arrogant, aggressive, and had a thirst for leadership. Momma, whos that? Patchkit asked quietly. For now, you don't need to know anything else.
How well do you know Mapleshade? - Test - Quotev He told you to wait. She kept their relationship a secret, sneaking out at night to meet him in private. Books Mapleshae Test Warrior Cats Mapleshade. Y-You're supposed to be dead!" The group arrived at the river. Dunno, She murmured. Larchkit mews a RiverClan warrior had to save Patchkit. Oh Starclan, why did you take our mother from us? And not only will I explain that it the death of her kits was her fault, but I will also explain how she did not need to avenge her kits. Art by GrayPillow People empathize with Mapleshade and defend her with the fact that her kits drowned.
Yes, it WAS Mapleshade's Fault that her Kits Drowned by Why do you think I'm here? Oakstar banished Mapleshade, and her troubles became worse when her kits drowned in the river following her attempt to escape to RiverClan. There has been much confusion over Mapleshade's description. It was a plump, juicy one, and I had to resist eating it greatly. Appledusk had promised to meet her at the ThunderClan-Riveclan border at sunhigh. Crookedstar spent much of his life being swayed by Mapleshade's vengeful spirit, but once he realized the darkness behind her words, he turned away from her and focused on leading his Clan. Mapleshade vows vengeance on Ravenwing and Frecklewish, blaming them for her kits' deaths. During the battle between the Clans, StarClan and the Dark Forest, she tried to kill a ThunderClan senior warrior, Sandstorm, becauseshe had everything Mapleshade ever wanted: a mate who loved her, having kits that she could watch grow up and one day have kits of their own, and respect from her Clanmates, all of which she believed StarClan stole from her. Hes been like that the entire day. They go to a place beyond StarClan, where they still get to live eternally, but cannot speak with living cats anymore. He really had no real reason behind killing kits the way he did by attacking them ("training them."). Well, everyone knows that. Mapleshade felt a little nervous, but she assured herself nothing was wrong.Ravenwing leaned closer. The results for this wintry gathering! As if that wouldn't be enough, M. thunderclan patchkit mapleshade +12 more # 6 -Scarlet stream- (Hollyleaf vampir. Maybe it's just a matter of how many times you broke the warrior code and how serious these breaks are?Like with Mapleshade, she broke the code like 5 times in the novella I believe and 3 of those times were murder one of which is a medicine cat at the High Stones a place where cats really shouldn't be fighting and especially not killing. Cats like Tigerstar, Thistleclaw, and Brokenstar who viewed StarClan and stupid and weak simply did not want to go there after their deaths. Frecklewish, the sister of the recently-deceased warrior Birchface, assumes that this is because Birchface is the father, and Mapleshade doesn't confirm or deny it.
Who killed mapleshade's kits? Explained by Sharing Culture Second, the stepping stones are not the safest way to cross, and the map shows two perfectly good bridges that she could have used to cross. And Mapleshade was having nightmares of her kits unable to reach starclan without killing appledusk, ravenwing, And frecklewish. Petalkit didnt really listen to the conversation, Mapleshade observed, because she was staring wide-eyed at all te scenery. I dont remember if it was raining, or if it were flooding season for the river, but many people say Oakstar would have known, and to that I say so would Mapleshade. Imagine how she would've reacted if she'd gone to StarClan instead of the Dark Forest, since she'd be re-united with her kits. A little while after that I was asleep. The kits soon were playfighting with a leaf that spiraled down from the sky. Well, I think youre right! But they face distrust due to their half-Clan heritage. Winners of the July 2022 fan challenge + new challenge announcement. Mapleshade took quick gulps from the river. Mapleshade is a large, thick-furred,tortoiseshell-and-white she-cat with amber eyes, anda long, thick, fluffy, white tail. Although listed as a RiverClan cat in The Ultimate Guide, Mapleshade was never truly accepted into RiverClan. I thought I would examine some examples of cats who we know what their lives were like, and why they went to the Dark Forest or not after they died, and show how there seems to be no consistent rule about who goes there. But, there is still one glaring example that trashes this whole theory anyway: Ashfur. Birchface will greatly be missed. The kits looked satisfied. I have walked beside you from the day you were born, guiding your paw steps, laying out your destiny before you. His apprentice, Perchpaw, attacked Mapleshade and gave her wounds that would later on end her life. He told her he loved her more than anything. Id first like to extend a huge thank you to everyone who participated anyone who Ivywish shares their opinion on the warrior code. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Mapleshade gave birth to Larchkit, Petalkit and Patchkit, and the Clan assumed Birchface was their father. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/WarriorCatsMapleshadesVengeance. Pigma Micron Archival Ink pens. Mapleshade didnt really care; she just regretted what she said about Birchface being the father. Mapleshade teaches Goosefeather how to fight. Well, he's the only cat to die and make it back to the Clans in a living body. A mate that loved me, kits that I could watch grow up and have kits of their own, the respect of my Clanmates! Leader: Oakstar sturdy brown tom with amber eyes Apprentice, Petalpaw, Deputy: Beetail dark brown striped tabby tom, Medicine cat: Ravenwingsmall black tom with blue eyes Apprentice, Patchpaw, Mapleshadethick-furred tortoiseshell she-cat with amber eyes Apprentice, Wasppaw, Deerdapplesilver and black tabby she-cat, Frecklewishspeckled golden-furred she-cat with dark amber eyes Apprentice, Larchpaw, Nettlebreezeginger tabby tom with light blue eyes, Seedpeltlight brown-and-white tom with green eyes, Thrushtalonbrown tabby tom with dark blue eyes, Flintfurginger tabby tom with light blue eyes, Crimsonwishdark ginger tabby she-cat with blueish-purple eyes, Watersparka dark blue-gray she-cat with red-amber eyes, Dewspecklelight brown-and-white tabby she-cat with amber eyes Apprentice, Rushpaw, Patchpawthick-furred calico tom with green eyes, Petalpawlight brown she-cat with light green eyes, Larchpawdark brown tom with dark amber eyes, Wasppawblack-and-white tom with blue eyes, Rushpawblack she-cat with heather-colored eyes, Rabbitfurlight gray tabby tom with amber eyes, Barkhollydark brown she-cat with crimson eyes, Leader: Darkstarblack she-cat with green-blue eyes, Medicine cat: Dewsplashlight brown she-cat with blue eyes Apprentice, Rainpaw, Appleduskpale brown tom with green eyes Apprentice: Perchpaw, Milkfurwhite she-cat with gray-green eyes, MudgashOrange tabby she-cat with amber eyes, Perchtailgolden tabby tom with torn ears, Birchwishgolden-brown she-cat with green eyes, Rainpawblue-gray tom with dark blue eyes, Reedshine (Mother of Lightkitorange tabby she-kit; Applekitpale brown tom). I killed him for you! Another reason why she shouldve not gone to the dark forest was when she was training Crookedstar. Mapleshade and her kits were then exiled by Oakstar astraitors. Mapleshade, however, bested him in single combat and made an impression upon him by revealing her tragic past. Mapleshade to Crookedjaw about Willowbreeze. What you want for yourself is nothing compared to the needs of your Clan. This list shows the victims Mapleshade has killed: Warriors Wiki is a FANDOM Books Community. We needed her! She descended to the Dark Forest, and from there, Mapleshade continued to affect the lives of the living, such as attempting to ruin Crookedstar's life by making him give her a fateful promise, helping Tigerstar rise as ShadowClan's leader, and training Goosefeather. Mapleshade then turned her rage toward Appledusk. Same thing goes for Hollyleaf. she went insane, and, yes, unlike Ashfur she did murder kitties, but she also "loved too much". To be rejected twice? Larchkit, Pachkit, and Petalkit were adorable and didnt deserve to drown and die instantly. You will find much better company in the cats here, Tigerclaw.Mapleshade's changed opinion on StarClan. Mapleshade quickly leaned over to him and whispered, They are ours. Appledusk beamed at her. She then uncovered his grave and left his corpse to be eaten by a hawk. Birchface is rightfully their father, and they are Thunderclan cats through and through! So, I think theres enough evidence to say that Thistleclaws motives were bad. She vowed to kill the cats who were to blame for the death of her kits. So tell me, is Birchface really the father of this litter?, Mapleshade suddenly felt anger surge through her. Spottedpaw dreams herself into the Place of No Stars, and goes to find Thistleclaw. She is too late, and the she-cat fades from beneath her. Im Appledusk, The dark cream tom replies. It is known that Mapleshade and a few others had survived the Great Battle, as she's later seen with Silverhawk in The Broken Code. She admired them quickly. Nothing is known about her kithood, but it's said she was a bold, loyal and skillful warrior, known for her courage in facing enemies such as foxes, badgers and other cats. If it is for Crimsonwish, Im gonna take it. He asks her why, and she tells him that every cat in ThunderClan must die, and that he is already doomed. Why?! This is where my issue with the Dark Forest is since who is sent to the Dark Forest or not seems rather arbitrary. : Mapleshade internally calls a WindClan patrol "fools" after she gets away with taking the rabbit they were chasing. She is banished from ThunderClan. Or evil?
Much, much more lies ahead of us, Tigerclaw. What do Chinese red noodle beans taste like? It's worth putting up with him for now, if he can do the same for us. Mapleshade's kits survive the journey to RiverClan and grow up in the new Clan.
Mapleshade's Kits - Chapter 1 by Moonstone210 on DeviantArt However, she ended up falling in love with a RiverClan tom namedAppledusk, which was forbidden by the Warrior Code. What you want for yourself is nothing compared to the needs of your Clan. Yes, it WAS Mapleshade's Fault that her Kits Drowned by HollyleafTheGreat Fan Articles November 2, 2020 59 comments 4 min read HollyleafTheGreat takes a look at Mapleshade's involvement in the death of her kits. Mapleshade faced betrayal and heartbreak in her life, and the burning need to make everyone else feel her pain followed her even beyond death. Ive seen the incidents that happened the past few weeks, and Petalkit certainly resembles..hmm..Appledusk. Ashfur still attempted to murder kitties. Of course. I dashed outside, nodding to Crimsonwish. I dont want your fat, greedy self eating this precious piece of prey.. So, just to reiterate my point: the Dark Forest makes no sense. You get rejected from StarClan if you truly are evil. If you are going to edit a lot, then make yourself a user and login. He just wanted to kill them because of their association with Squirrelflight. Judging their character at only four moons old?! These traumatic events left a huge mark on Mapleshade. Your Clanmates are lying injured in camp yet you sneak off and risk your life to save a warrior who can't even outrun a Twoleg! Through the reeds, their wide eyes saw the thick-furred she-cat slowly and carefully step into the water. Mapleshade still felt a sickening in her stomach as she went back to camp. But, I cant think of a better explanation as to why some cats go to the Dark Forest, and others dont. Today was also the day of Half-Moon, where us medicine cats go to the Highstones. She brings him to the Dark Forest and reveals she's been watching him throughout his life. She left vowing that they would regret what they did that day forever. Appledusk leaped on to the stepping stones and on to the river. Enter a Melbet promo code and get a generous bonus, An Insight into Coupons and a Secret Bonus, Organic Hacks to Tweak Audio Recording for Videos Production, Bring Back Life to Your Graphic Images- Used Best Graphic Design Software, New Google Update and Future of Interstitial Ads. Although I love Mapleshade, she deserves to go to the DF, and Appledusk to StarClan. The Blog Monthly is back written by Lil, fresh off the printing press Hello, everyone! Spottedpaw is bewildered, and when Mapleshade orders Thistleclaw to get rid of her, he leads her away from the scene. Mapleshade is one of thefewmajor female villains in the. Firestar is horrified, crying that Spottedleaf had promised to be there when he went to StarClan. Warriors Fanfiction is a FANDOM Books Community. Sure, she's an excellent villain that breaks a lot of stereotypes, but that doesn't justify the murder of 3 cats. The final reason that I can think of is that maybe cats can do bad things like murder or have motivation to murder, but that if they repent/feel guilty for their actions, then they can be accepted into StarClan and dont have to go to the Dark Forest. Although I was trying not to let my personal bias cloud my analysis in the post. People empathize with Mapleshade and defend her with the fact that her kits drowned. In her desperation to get her kits to safety, Mapleshade tried to take themacross the river to seek refuge in RiverClan.
The following night, she waits at Highstones and kills Ravenwing at the Moonstone. They had returned from the visit with Appledusk, and Frecklewish was watching the kits while Mapleshade went for some air.
Who killed mapleshade's kits? - Fppey.churchrez.org Mapleshade was convinced StarClan was giving her an opportunity and said yes, they were Birchface's kits. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! He insists that the Clan needs to know the truth, and tells them. This led him to revealing the truth to the whole of ThunderClan. While he fell in love with Snowfur, Thistleclaw despised her sister, Bluestar. Upon taking her and the kit's bodies to RiverClan camp, Appledusk blamed Mapleshade for crossing the river which resulted in the kit's deaths, and rejected her in front of his Clan. She was delighted to see another cat go through the same pain that she had. This is due to the fact that,unlike most of the other major villains, whose evil actions are driven by a lust for something they've never had, Mapleshade's evil actions are driven by grief and anger over something she has lost. Appledusk returned with a fish in his hands. I love them, and I love you.. Finally, they had made it to the Riverclan border, only a raging river not standing in their way. Then, maybe it isnt a question about action, but rather about motive. This is a Fanfiction written by Starlingclaw the NightWing. Like what level of a bad thing does a cat have to do or think or whatever to go to the Dark Forest? When this is revealed, she is exiled and attempts to go to Riverclan. If only they knew. When Crookedstar'slast remaining daughter, Silverstream, fell in love with the ThunderClan tom Graystripe, and died giving birth to their kits, Mapleshade declared Crookedstar's "punishment" complete. Mapleshade bravely tried to save her kits, and almost drowned herself in doing so, but ultimately failed. But don't worry, I made them pay. Thats my prey!. Well, Mapleshade died after she killed Appledusk, whom she had blamed for the death of her kits as well as blaming Ravenwing and Frecklewish. But its for the best. The ThunderClan medicine cat Ravenwing also sees them, and tells her that he's figured out that the father of the kits is Appledusk, not Birchface. Mapleshade Appledusk Not mourning for his kits and acting innocent when confessing to Darkstar that he was the father of the kits, getting another mate, and treating her worse than prey. Appledusk gestured for her to come behind a willow tree, so Mapleshade followed, taking one last glance at the kits. Are Mapleshade kits in Starclan? When he started to become close to Bluepaw, she scolded him. Point 2) you might be right that Hollyleaf made up for what she did through heroic action. They have no right to be treated like this!!
What If Mapleshade's Kits Survived - Humans For Survival Once arriving at the fresh-kill pile, I sniffed through it but found only one mouse. After this, Crookedkit, now Crookedstar, finally realized that Mapleshade had been manipulating him and confronted her in a dream. You will live to regret this day forever, ThunderClan, and that is a promise. Mapleshade, who is not known to have died, attempted . Welcome to the Warriors Wiki! They should live as rogues and loners because that's what they are! StarClan really chose the wrong cat to try and mess up, because she just tried her best to protect her kits. You told me you loved me! . Or, I think the case could also be made that she killed Ashfur out of self-defense/ to protect the clan because he was clearly unhinged and a threat. Deathberries, also known by Twolegs as yew berries, are a type of poisonous fruit resembling red olives. Because honestly, Crowfeather has never done anything so bad by any metric to get him sent to the Dark Forest, so that would really make 0 sense. I went to the back of the den, placing the Horsetail in one of the clefts in the rock. Long before she troubled the dreams of Crookedstar or Tigerclaw, Mapleshade was a warrior of ThunderClan. My next post will be about 5 cats that people think deserve the Dark Forest but dont (and one that absolutely does). And, Mapleshade would have naturally hated StarClan for causing the exile of her/her kits by sending the omen to Ravenwing. Days later, Mapleshade discovers that Reedshine of RiverClan is expecting Appledusk's kits. That place is full of weak-willed cowards who clung to the warrior code like ants to a leaf in a puddle.
A nearby RiverClan patrol saved her, but to her horror, all three of her kits drowned, with Appledusk blaming her for their deaths. Personality and Relationships. Nettlebreeze says that Mapleshade deserves to go to the Dark Forest. Yeah, Larchkit chimed in, Hes nice! Patchkit nodded along with them. They can kill a cat in seconds. To be a loner when all you tried to do was love? Their lives didn't matter to her, even though she spent so much time with them. You now know the truth about everything, as well as not being murdered by Appledusk; you just fell in the river. Ravenwing. He should be in the Place of No Stars for all eternity. Then Sandstorm chases Mapleshade to the border and comes back. His spirit will not die. She discovered that she could dwell in the dreams of others, and watched over Stormkit, Appledusk's great grandson, destined to be RiverClan's next leader. Patchyface, thats my prey, because I caught it. My brother jumped off of Wasppaw as she approached. First, she stalked Ravenwing, the cat who had revealed her secret, and murderedhim at the Moonstone. Mapleshade is listed under RiverClan's character list in the table of contents, just after Crookedstar. Yes, it WAS Mapleshade's Fault that her Kits Drowned by HollyleafTheGreat Fan Articles November 2, 2020 59 comments 4 min read HollyleafTheGreat takes a look at Mapleshade's involvement in the death of her kits. With the future RiverClan leader in her thrall, Mapleshade trained him to become the warrior she had been, while steadily stealing everything he loved most. Hawkfrost | Rushtooth | Rainflower, WindClan Wouldnt they be happier in StarClan than the lonely, miserable Dark Forest? And every blessing they stole from me!
Mapleshade Stories - Wattpad I was wondering.if you would let me take Patchkit as my apprentice. You will regret this, Appledusk. Want to edit and see less ads? Petalkit and Larchkit nodded. After RiverClan cast her out of the scene, Mapleshade went into grief and hallucinated of her dead kits crying out to be avenged.
Mapleshade or appledusk? Who deserves dark forest? by Lunaheart Yall May ask why send the others to the Place of No Stars? Well my friends, heres the key: Oakstar Banished a newly queen and her three kits, resulting in them dying. Why would you want to go to StarClan? She became cold, vicious, ruthless, manipulative,and obsessively vengeful, her psychedistorting to the point of insanity. You told me you loved me! Because of the murders she committed, Mapleshade's spirit was denied entry to StarClan and instead sent to the Place of No Stars, also known as the Dark Forest. So th kits grow up in Thunderclan. Oh Appledusk. Because she didnt blame one cat entirely, her mind created the visions to be one kit less with each kill.